tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post8230064923511924803..comments2009-10-30T08:36:20.039ZCaspar Melvillehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01353854691274758207noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-89832633861570518832009-10-30T08:36:20.039Z2009-10-30T08:36:20.039ZIf science can&#39;t detect a something...neither can you. You can believe in it, but then i&#39;ve got a lovely collection of teapots circling the earth to tell you about. They are really there....believe me.Richard Eisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-33217158943257245552009-10-29T13:22:16.094Z2009-10-29T13:22:16.094ZGeorgeric says<br /><br />&quot;the materialist position involves an act of faith that &#39;the material world is all that there is&#39;. Their act of faith cannot be proved.&quot;<br /><br />Interesting, or not actually. Calling observation, hypothesis and testing &quot;faith&quot; is a pretty big stretch of your imagination. Suggesting that (your words);<br /><br />&quot;Certainly, science cannot possibly experiment with the spirit world.&quot;<br /><br />Why is that? You suggest this as a given, why? Why do you presuppose that science can&#39;t? I&#39;m betting is so you can claim to be some sort of self appointed expert in the supernatural and sell a crappy book to gullible, crystal wearing, new age spiritualist.<br /><br />Unfortunately, you&#39;ve missed the point of flatland. Just because some portion of the universe exists outside of our normal perspective, it doesn&#39;t mean that it is unknowable, simply that the universe is more complex than our simple perception might lead us to beleve.Greghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18229575823044092803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-78410885041242795532009-10-29T11:49:31.086Z2009-10-29T11:49:31.086ZAnonymous (just in case you&#39;re serious):<br /><br />&quot;<i>For doubters, it is a scientific approach, taking a theory and checking phenomena to see if that theory makes them more understandable.</i>&quot;<br /><br />Er.. no, the scientific approach would be to ask what concrete predictions this theory makes, what would disprove it, and then <b>test it by trying to disprove it</b>. If you can&#39;t think of anything that might disprove what you&#39;re saying, then it might be an interesting idea, it might be consistent with what we know, but it isn&#39;t science.Andyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15432543456476489561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-56699533655071634112009-10-29T11:27:40.511Z2009-10-29T11:27:40.511ZHoly crap. It&#39;s the grand unifying theory.<br /><br />I&#39;m off to phone the physics department and tell them to get on it. I can see the opening of the new &#39;ghost department&#39; with associated EPSRC funding just around the corner.<br /><br />No wait - that&#39;ll be the GETRC (Ghosts and Ethereal Theory Research Council)...<br /><br />[koff koff].sushiguruhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00935874792323918958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-57233533625735973522009-10-28T22:27:52.156Z2009-10-28T22:27:52.156ZThe whole ballgame (knowledge and understanding) is about to go through a major expansion, understanding a brand new (and traditional) view of our worlds. For doubters, it is a scientific approach, taking a theory and checking phenomena to see if that theory makes them more understandable.<br /> Fellow Seekers of Truth: using the logic of science, we check phenomena to see if they are explained by theory. If many phenomena can be explained, we then hold that theory to be true.<br /> Edwin Abbott, writing his book &#39;Flatland&#39; to humorously explain contiguous dimensional worlds, shows us a logical explanation for worlds superior to ours. &#39;Techie Worlds&#39; uses the Flatland Concept to examine far-out Christian teachings such as Trinity, soul, Resurrection, Judgment, etc. While quite preposterous from a &#39;material-world-only&#39; view, these teachings make rational good sense in the Flatland context.<br /> Mankind has long been plagued with reports of the spirit world: miracles, ghosts, possession, pagan gods, witchcraft, occult, devil worship, black masses. Materialists classify all such as superstition and overactive imaginings. Christians shy from such, holding them unnatural because Jesus taught us to love. But the materialist position involves an act of faith that &#39;the material world is all that there is&#39;. Their act of faith cannot be proved. Certainly, science cannot possibly experiment with the spirit world. Techie Worlds&#39; (available from www.amazon) shows the belief in higher worlds, also an act of faith, is logical and considered, and shows these strange Christian concepts to be logically possible.<br />GeorgeRicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2988701180687792678.post-11749686447022110212009-10-28T17:18:07.094Z2009-10-28T17:18:07.094ZThe Dawk&#39;s still got it. And what a snide little Onanist Damian Thompson is.valdemarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03829872956512652469noreply@blogger.com