Thursday, 28 January 2010

Stephen Baldwin on creationism

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I thought I ought to share an exchange I was alerted to on BBC Radio Five Live between actor-turned-evangelical preacher Stephen Baldwin, who was recently evicted from Celebrity Big Brother, and presenter Richard Bacon. You can listen to the show on the BBC iPlayer, where you need to flick to 44 minutes to hear Bacon challenge Baldwin on his creationism. It's hardly high-level stuff, but it's good for a laugh – "If we came from monkeys, why are monkeys still here?" asks Baldwin, leading Bacon to put in a sterling effort trying to explain why that's a fallacy. Baldwin doesn't like it, either.

As I said, hardly high-level stuff, but as Bacon admits from the outset, he's not an evolutionary biologist.


SilverTiger said...

as Bacon admits from the outset, he's not an evolutionary biologist.

Very few of us are and that's one of the problems. Too often, pro-evolutionists, not able to cite chapter and verse, sound as bigoted and close-minded as the creationists they are arguing with.

I would like to see less ranting and a better quality of debate, even if this means some of the more combative but less knowledgeable pro-evolutionists shutting their traps and deferring to the experts.

David Booth said...

I think Bacon didn't do too badly there, although the amount of empty rhetoric and biligerant ignorance of accepted theory from Stephen Baldwin was quite alarming. Although from the Actor that brought us Biodome, I'm not convinced there was much knowledge in there prior to his conversion.


Tommykey said...

That's like asking if Italian-Americans descended from Italians, why are there still Italians? Or, more on point, if dogs came from wolves, why are there still wolves?

Well duh! When you have a large population with genetic variety existing in that population, over time and due to environmental factors such as climate change, migration, physical separation and so forth, segments of the original population will branch off into different species.

Of course, Stephen Baldwin is hardly the heaviest hitter in the Biblical Creationist arsenal.

Anonymous said...

Both the interviewer and Baldwin are wrong:

Evolutionary theory doesn't at all necessitate the exaction of common ancestors (as creationists think it does).

The present day existence of coelacanth (lobe-finned fish) doesn't at all challenge evolutionary theory.

Chris said...

Oh my word! I have just heard this, incredible!

Bacon does very well. Baldwin is a ruined man keeping it together by leading a blinkered life.

'God uses bad things for good'. wow.