Thursday, 17 January 2008

Creators of Intelligent Design movie will pay people to see it

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A few months ago we reported how Richard Dawkins had been tricked into recording interviews for Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, a documentary film intended to promote the Intelligent Design agenda to the American public.

Now, as the film approaches its April release date, it seems its creators are so confident in the quality of their product that they are willing to pay people to go and see it in order to ensure a successful opening weekend.

Christian schools are being offered cash "donations" for every child they deliver to showings of Expelled, which it is hoped they will do by organising compulsory school trips. Parents would be expected to stump up for the price of a ticket, while the school receives at least $5 for every ticket stub they hand back to the filmmakers. The film gets more viewers, the school gets more cash, the kids get intellectually misled, and everyone's a winner. Except for human progress, obviously.

It all smacks of desperation, of course. And having watched the trailer, it looks suitably dreadful. You'd have to give me more than $5. Call it $50 and we can start talking...

17 comments:

The Hogfather said...

Oh Dear! Oh Dear! Oh Dear!

What a terrible trailer- but then I didn't expect any better.

If you ask me "Darwinism" is not only right (there is no shred of real evidence against it) but far more awe inspiring than the notion of some God character, that we know nothing about making us on a whim.

Darwin provides the most elegant ,and ultimately simple, solution to the problem of where complex life forms come from. The question of where the first life form came from of course is not covered by Darwinian evolution, a fact that the guy on the video seems to be blissfully ignorant of.

It is ultimately the Darwinian narrative that inspires- the notion that every being that has ever lived is connected to all others (albeit in a very indirect capacity).

Why does the guy keep whitering on about "mud"?

Bad said...

Don't forget the emphasis on "Christian" schools. The movie's blurb insists that it's about evidence for a creator, and it's star is even Jewish. And yet neither Jews nor Muslims seem to be of any concern, despite the fact that they both believe in a creator.

Bloodknok said...

Note the tendentious use of images of Nazi death camps. Godwin's law strikes again!!

Anonymous said...

Oh, Ben, Ben, Ben. Seems like a smart guy like you would know the difference between reality and belief. I may believe I can fly, but if I jump out of a tree I will fall. Perhaps my belief system doesn't quite explain reality.

Cosmogenes said...

Isstead of "mud and lightning" and evolution, we are to continue to believe the ancient fable that an extraterrestrial named YHWH ELOHIM sculpted the ancestors of all living things including humans out of mud and blew air into their noses to make them alive. (See Genesis Ch. 3).
Oh, well...

Anonymous said...

Ben Stein's a smart guy, and actually does bring up a good point. I mean, why should a scientist be criticized for believing in God and thinking that Darwin wasn't 100 percent absolutely right? Thank you, gestapo, your radical scientific ways have showed me the light and error of having a non-scientific opinions. Most people I know that support darwinism don't even know what the hell it is beyond monkey to human, which they only use to their advantage to argue that what they did at the zoo was not bestiality.

Anonymous said...

oh, and just as an afternote, I know you won't allow that last comment to show because it doesn't agree with you or kiss your ass to any degree, so just let me say: bravo, admiral science, way to show that you have a pair

Anonymous said...

O M G
Did you all notice the _NON_ subtile comparison between Nazi Germany and darwinists..
lol so cracked up, I would totally respect the film if it dealt with the matter in an appropriate scientific and journalistic way. But I puke when I see propaganda wrapped up in claimed openminded documentaries like that. They are so hypocritic

Anonymous said...

I love that "DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY" is repeatedly written. Whose authority? Mine or yours, joker?

Anonymous said...

I love that "DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY" is repeatedly written.

Renacier said...

Quote mining: check.
Persecution complex: check.
Cheap publicity stunts, sketchy logic, appeals to emotion: check, check and check.

Yep. It's ID, all right.

The Hogfather said...

"I shall not question Darwinism" is written repeatedly on the blackboard.

On the contary, as a rationalist thinker I think that we should question things as much as possible and obviously that includes Darwinian evolution. After all, isn't it by questioning the Darwinian theory that we have arrived where we are today- namely with a massive body of evidence in favour of the theory.

Any scientific minded, reasonable person will tell you that questioning beliefs and suspected facts is a vital part of scientific thinking.

Despite this though, I have little sympathy for those people in the video who claim to have been discriminated against for going against the so-called authodoxy.
Why?

Well, there is a big difference between saying something is wrong or criticising Darwinism in the absence of any real evidence and questioning something!

Question, Question, Question away by all means, but don't write deliberately anti- Darwinian remarks with no justification in what is supposed to be a scientific paper!!!

Anonymous said...

My god, that man's voice is whiny and irritating. I couldn't sit through that movie if you did pay me.
Mud, lightning and chance. Yup, that's the whole of Evolutionary Biology wrapped up nicely for ID.

Teh Peer review system... it burns...

Rob Hughes said...

You know, it's actually the creationists who spend their time laughing at the evolutionists. Evolution has got to be the most stupid theory man has ever come up with.

You see, creationists have EVIDENCE to back up the fact that there is a Creator. Evolution has nothing. Evolution is just a fairy tale for grownups.

What does evolution teach? It teaches that billions of years ago nothing became something (which contravenes the first law of thermodynamics). That something then blew up and became an organised everything. Now that is true science fiction!! Keep it coming guys.

A building shows that there was a builder. A painting shows that there was a painter. And creation shows that there is a Creator. Simple.

Atheism is simply a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God.

This movie shows quite clearly how evolutionists (who protect their "theory" tooth and nail) are nothing more than narrow minded fundamentalists.

Paul Sims said...

Rob, in addition to myth and reality, I think you're confusing biology and cosmology.

Rob Hughes said...

Paul, the reality is that we are here (unless you believe otherwise). That means that we came from somewhere. Matter cannot be eternal, which means the universe cannot be eternal. The second law of thermodynamics (often called the law of entropy) makes it very clear. Biology is the study of life and cosmology is the study of the universe. In what way am I confusing the two? It is evolution that says life has arisen from the cosmos.

The reality is that we have an intricately designed universe. That shows there is a designer. Evolution is laughable. Do some research and discover that supposed evolutionary processes and genetic mutations have never proved that new information is added to the genome. Discover that we have no intermediary fossils. Discover that macro-evolution (changes that take place across the species barrier) have never been observed. If a frog turns into a prince, that's a fairy tale. But if a frog turns into a prince over billions of years suddenly it's science. That's the answer is it? Just add billions of years to everything. Evolutionary scientists say that evolutionary changes happen very, very slowly. Actually they happen so slowly that they don't even happen! There's your myth. There's your fairy tale.

Anonymous said...

I wish these creationists would just shut up now, there comes a time when you had your face put down the toilet just that once too often that you need to rethink your game plan. Science as it is will come to whatever answers there are, whether it be creationism or otherwise, why seek to jump from what we know now to what scientifically is a fantasy called creationism..... science is science, it will find the answers it does not need interfering god squad trying to redefine it....