Tuesday, 18 December 2007

The End of the World Cult – the debate continues

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Ben Anthony's documentary, The End of the World Cult, broadcast last week on Channel 4, has triggered a good deal of debate on web forums. The documentary told the story of the Strong City cult of New Mexico, and its leader Michael Travesser, who was formerly a Seventh Day Adventist Pastor named Wayne Bent. Michael believes he is the Messiah and has a worrying tendency to set dates for the end of the world that the members of his cult (including several children) readily buy into.

We're aware of at least three forums where users have been fiercely discussing the documentary – A Thinking Man, Vice Magazine and DigiGuide. There's a lot to get through, but watch out for input from someone who may be Travesser himself on Digiguide, strangely posting under his real name of Wayne Bent. Also look out for "Mr Rational" on Vice, who rationally declares the following: "I know who Michael Travesser is. He is the Son of God come to save this adulterous sinful generation from themselves. Those who will follow him are saved".

Ben's diary of his time in Strong City in the days leading up to 31 October this year, when Travesser predicted the world would end, appears in the Jan/Feb issue of New Humanist.

88 comments:

Michael Travesser said...

I will be much interested to read Ben's Diary. So would many of our people here in Strong City. I wonder how he will explain the lies he told about us. Ben has made his movie, and told the world that I said things I did not say, and intended things I did not intend. He manufactured a cult leader out of his own imagination and then pasted that picture on me. Ben, there are some young people here that you have used. You have molested our children. I could prove that in any court of law. If anything, you have ruined the last bit of trust in humanity, that they still carried in their hearts.

Ben, your sweet gentle approach to us belied your real intentions. We will be posting some of our own diary material now. The young women also have something to say to you, and perhaps it might be good to make those things public also. That lizard that you photographed in the movie, was you ben.

But even so, as I told you, I believe that the movie was God's will just as you made it. I told you that you would trash us, and that God would use it to judge the world. This has occurred just as I said it would. I told you that I loved you, and I still do. I cannot hate you, but I am constrained to tell the truth as I have always done. I told the truth to you and to the world, but you made a lie out of my words. It saddens me that you have shown yourself as honorable as the media in America. I have never, ever, been interview by an honest man here in America, or an honest women. Now I can include the UK in that statement. I wish you well, but I don't see how you can ever be well.

Esther said...

I am one of the young women that Michael spoke of who has something to say to Ben. I hold no animosity towards him at all. It is just that when I saw his "work of art" about us I found a few things in my heart to say to him.

Hello Ben,

I have watched your documentary about our "cult" over a couple of times now. I have to say, I was quite impressed with it. It is a pretty awesome masterpiece of sinister and twisted journalism. I was just awed as I watched you turn our story and even our personal lives into a dark and spooky tale. The whole thing was packed full of lies. I know it and you know it.

I couldn't help but feel that your spirit towards us was very sinister and I found myself wondering if it has always been this way or if something happened to turn your feelings. Were you always setting us up to make us into villains or was that something that came as an afterthought to your first three week stay with us? You always seemed so nice to our faces when you were here for those three weeks but what appeared at the end of your last visit with us and throughout the entire movie is something very
different from that face.

I thought after watching the film that if ever you were trying to "help" us and open our eyes to the glories and joys of "your world" in comparison to our "sheltered" world that is "spun" by Michael, you have forever decimated any hope of doing so. I just could not live in your world that stalks and preys upon others for its own benefit. To me it feels akin to being offered a bowl of sewer instead of the ripe peach I am eating.

In your story of us, something very much stood out to me. I noticed that never once did you mention the hospitality you were shown in your time here. I heard no mention of the meals you received daily nor of the way we welcomed you in, almost as if you were one of us. I understand why, though. That story didn't fit the picture you wanted to paint for the world to view.

These things didn't offend or bother me. Though I think to myself, "I wonder how Ben can sleep at night?" Your film simply opened my eyes more clearly to the world that Michael has saved me from. You helpfully opened my eyes in a much greater way to the way the media and indeed the whole world functions. I also saw, first hand, up close and personally, just how much your world would have to offer me. I find myself VERY turned off by your cold and calculating world.

What you have done with our story only draws me all the closer to Michael and all he has taught and shown me through his own sacrificed life. I'm drawn more than ever to bury myself in the heart of God, hidden away from the earth; drawn more than ever to leave it all behind and let it burn. I don't know if you were intending to give this gift to me but I am thankful for it.

With all true sincerity, sir, I thank you for what you have done for us. We watched you perfectly fulfill Father's work for you and for this I am very grateful. Our story, our experience, would not have been complete without your part in it. So I thank you. And for all of the dark and sinister feel of the movie, there were still a few precious jewels that shone out for any who have eyes to see them, and I know some will.

Your work is very much appreciated. I just wanted to tell you of the blessing I received through watching your movie, the blessing of loving Michael more than I ever have and the gift of being settled in concrete assurance that I AM following God.

Very sincerely,
Esther

Danielle said...

I am also one of the young women from Strong City, who wrote a letter to Ben, after watching the BBC documentary that he made about us:


Dear Ben,

When I met you and Eddie, you both seemed to me to be very nice men and to be very genuine at heart about your purpose here with our movie. I very much enjoyed my time with you both while you were here, and my heart went out to you both in a great way. Michael said He invited you to come with us when we leave the earth, but that you said you didn't know if you wanted to go to heaven. Hearing that was like a sword being pierced into my heart, because I truly desired that you would ascend with us when we leave the earth.

I freely opened my heart to you both and shared with you about my life here in Travesser with the Son of God, and about the occurrences in my life that God Himself brought to pass by His own hand. I shared freely with you, because I thought that you were going to present our story in just the way we gave it to you, because you told us you would. I surely didn't expect that you would be no different than the news reporters in America who twist, lie, and distort everything they report about. I truly thought you were honest men, and that you would present our story to the world just as we gave it to you, but instead, I came to find out that you only presented it from your own world-view.

I watched the documentary you made about us, a few days ago, and I have to say that it is quite incredible how you made a very dishonest twisted film about us, especially after you were given so much information about us, and were personally with us for so long. You made Michael out to look to the world to be a gross pervert who only wanted sex and to see the virgins naked. Then you lied in the film saying that Michael set a date for the end of the world, when he clearly told you He was not doing that. Ben, we opened our hearts wide open to you, and told you the things about our very personal lives here, but you took all of that precious information, and made a dishonest film about us. Ben, I know you know very well that we never said the end of the world would be on Oct. 31st or on Dec. 15th. We simply told you those dates were end markers for us in our prophecy that God gave to us.

I know very well how you view our group and all of the events that God has made occur here. You cannot help yourself but see this all from your world view, and I don't blame you for this. I, personally, even know what this all looks like from your point of view. But, I can never deny the fact that God has been personally with us here in this land, and that HE has done all of these things, and that is why I am here. I am drawn to God and to His Son, and I know that is a mystery to you, and that you could never understand from your point of view. God's leading makes no sense to people who don't know His Voice and follow it. I truly don't expect that you would understand what has happened here having your world-view context, and not knowing God personally.

For me, this experience isn't about following a 66 year old man around, and desiring a sexual relationship with him. No, I personally am not drawn to 66 year old men, nor do I desire to just hang out with a "religious" group of people. But that isn't what has been happening here. I see someone totally different than you see. I do not see a man, I see the being Michael, the Son of God, inside of Wayne's body, and that is Who I have been drawn to all this time. I am drawn to the Son of God, but I know you cannot see Him. Your eyes are blind to the truth, and your ears are deaf to His Voice, and so I do not expect that you would see anything besides a 66 year old man who is a pervert, and who is only claiming to be the Son of God.

Even though you made such a distorted, twisted, deceitful, film about us, I want to thank you for doing this movie. You have only helped me by causing my eyes to be opened wider and wider to the present reality of how your world actually operates, and this knowledge is driving me further and further away from it. I knew that the world was dishonest, and that the media is full of lies about what they report about, but I honestly didn't think you were that way. I thought that you and Eddie were some "good and honest" men in this world, but I found out differently. I found out that no matter how "genuine" and "nice" people can appear on the outside, it doesn't mean that is who they are on the inside. Appearances are only fraudulent. I see that everyone is inhabited by a spirit, and if it is not God's Spirit, than it is a spirit of deceit and usary. I see how the whole wide world is dishonest, and that people only use each other for their own benefit. So in all these things you have been a help to me and I am thankful for it.

The way you presented our movie is not disturbing to me, but I am actually very happy for it all, because I know that this is all in God's plan for us. He used you to make this movie, and He is having His desired effects with it. "Every eye" is now seeing Him, and everyone is being judged by the judgment they are making of God's Son. In reality, people themselves, are choosing their destiny, whether it be to leave this earth and return to our true Maker, or to die in the destruction that is quickly approaching this doomed planet.

I thought I would share something with you that happened to me when you came back the second time, on Oct. 29th. After you interviewed Esther and I at the end of your day, just before you ended our interview, you said something to us like, "I would like to say 'See you again,' but I don't know if I will." That really struck me in a painful way when you said that. We then said our goodbyes to you and then you left. As you both were walking away with Benjamin towards his house, right then, God came down on me very strongly with His Spirit, and He gave me a very real experience of what it feels like to say goodbye to the earth and to really leave here. I felt as if I was ascending up off of the earth altogether and you and everyone else on this earth were getting farther and farther away. I knew and felt so clearly that we were really saying goodbye to you and to the whole world. It was a very real experience for me, and when I turned to Esther who was sitting right beside me, and said, "Do you realize...." I didn't even finish my sentence, but she and the others around all told me that they also had felt Father come down on them. He had come down very strongly on all of us, and it was just a sweet token of our very soon departure. That was a very clear marker for me in my own experience, and I know that I am really leaving this world, but it won't be through suicide, in the way you have imagined it will be.

Well, Ben, I know that nothing I said here or could say to you would cause you to see us any differently, but I just wanted to thank you for helping me to leave this earth behind. I am truly happy to not be a part of your world. Very soon, all of your accusations and ideas about us will fall meaningless to the ground. The reality of what we have told you all along, will appear to you and the others as an overwhelming surprise. What will you do then, Ben? What will you say to the whole world, — to all of those who saw your false story of us? Do you not realize how much responsibility rests upon your own shoulders with this movie you have made? These are just a few considerations for you is all...

When the vindication occurs, you won't be able to say that no one told you the truth, and that you didn't know. Out of the great majority of this earth's population, you and Eddie both, were given a very great privilege in being able to dwell, for a time, with the Son of God. You were given the privilege of hearing the personal testimonies from the people on the land, but instead of treasuring these precious heavenly pearls, you turned them into swine.

Well, Ben, "I would like to say 'see you again' but I don't know if I will....."

Sincerely,
Danielle

Anaiah Travesser said...

I am one of the Two Witnesses anointed by the Father in heaven in July of 2000, to bear witness to the second coming of His Son to this earth.

This morning when I awakened in the quiet dawn, my first thoughts were of the One I love, the precious divine Spirit who lives within me, the living Light who shows me truth, the Son of the Most High who I love to yield to, and delight to do His will. I said to Him,

Precious Michael, I love Who You are:

I love Your leadership in me
I love Your intimacy
I love Your purity
I love Your gentleness
I love Your strength
I love Your focus and purpose
I love Your integrity
I love Your ability to subdue me unto Yourself
I love Your ability to lay low my natural, dysfunctional self, and keep it there
I love Your fearlessness
I love how You go to the root of everything
I love how Your Light exposes
I love how Your Love covers and hides me in Your pure Life
I love how You never fail
I love how You are true to Your Word and always keep Your covenants
I love Your faithfulness
I love Your sensitivity
I love how You sense Father's every communication in me
I love how You hold me close and keep me
I love Your Love, Your pure selfless divine Love
I love loving You with Father's precious divine Love for You
I love how Father married me to You, and I love being married to You
I love how Father keeps us connected; I love how Father IS our connection — our Oneness
Great is Your faithfulness, my Love, unto me.

How I love this divine Being who has led me throughout my entire life, the One who has given me to experience the sweetness of loving God with all my heart, soul strength, mind and affection. This invisible divine Being that I already knew, and had felt inside of me from my earliest consciousness, is the One who appeared in His fulness in Wayne Bent in July 2000. Michael Travesser was to me the visible revelation of the invisible Spirit of God within me. He was already familiar to me. I already loved Him. I was already a part of Him and He was already a part of me. I already recognized His Voice, and the heavenly Father Himself told me, "This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him." 

I shared this with Ben when he was here:

Having someone in whom Messiah had appeared fully, caused me to identify in a much stronger way the Voice that was already speaking within me. And the One who appeared in the land, was the One I already knew and I had recognized His voice all of my life. The same Spirit of Michael that appeared in Wayne was the same Spirit of Michael that had talked to me all of my life, and guided me and was within me anything good that there was. It's like He was my responsiveness to the Father in heaven, because humans naturally don't have any responsiveness to God. Without that Seed, there would be nothing that would connect. From the time that Father sent me to see him for the first time, daily Father was lifting him up to me, showing me who was here among us. And what Messiah's appearing did for me was put me in touch with the Voice that's already within me. 

What Michael is to me is the Father in bodily form — how the Father takes us to Himself, and His heart toward us, His intimate love for us, His truthfulness and integrity and faithfulness. That's what I see in human form. In the Dead Sea Scrolls it talks about an anointed leader that appears. And I really see why we needed that, because we're so diminished at the end of the world here, and we needed all the help we could get. And the Bible says that Messiah comes to bring us to full salvation. And that's what Michael's work has been. 


This will be true for all those who already love the Spirit of truth who has been speaking within them their whole life — they will recognize Him wherever and in whomever He speaks. It won't matter the religion, creed, nationality, spiritual consciousness, or the name by which they address the divine Being they know — they will feel His responsiveness within them to the Spirit of truth in others, and they will have all the evidence they need to know the truth for themselves.

It is also true that those who need a messiah to save them from the truth, instead of knowing the truth for themselves, will choose Ben for their messiah, for he will give them just the evidence they want in order to discount the second coming of Christ to this earth.

lottie said...

Michael, you are a sick, manipulative, arrogant man. You are not tne Messiah, or anything of the sort. You brainwash young, insecure people and make them yours. Infact, you are so wrapped up in your own lies you are blind. How dare you assume thateveryone outside your cult has nothing but material possessions? Humanity has got its faults but you are an absolute disgrace. How can you say Ben was lying in his documentary when he had actual footage of you talking about how you slept with your daughter-in-law? Can't you see what pain your son was in when you talked about it? You only think in this sick way because you have had a traumatic child-hood, but nothing condones you for the damage you have done. And for God's sake (yes, I blas-phemed or whatever) THE WORLD DID NOT END IN OCTOBER! OR DECEMBER 15TH! DID YOU TRUTHFULLY BELIEVE IT WOULD? I am only a thirteen year old girl but I know what is wrong and what is right, and you are very much wrong.

lottie said...

IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE WORLD DID NOT END IN OCOBER OR DECEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MICHAEL, YOU MAKE ME SICK! YOU ARE NOT THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!

Timothy Benjamin said...

My first introduction to Michael Travesser came in April of 2001 from my corporate workstation in Pennsylvania. Upon reading His first article online, the truth of His testimony rang out loud and clear. In January of 2003, the door opened for me to move to the Church's property in New Mexico, where I have been ever since. Besides that, I am the second youngest male here in the land, next to Matthew.

What really blesses me the most about this movie is how Michael has responded to it. Many people would attempt to sue Ben Anthony if he were to slander them as he has done to Michael. But instead, the issues at hand have been addressed in the public forum on the internet. If one were to objectively peruse (if that's even possible) the blogs and forums mentioned in the body of this article, they would not be able to deny that NO ONE has been able to pin Michael down. He reads everyone like an open book, and responds to everyone in unconditional love. Truly, no one speaks as Michael does. Let's see Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Mr. Blair, the Clintons, the humanists, the homosexuals, the fundamentalists, the environmentalists, or anyone else do that. Show me oh earth, the integrity of your activists and leaders.

Those who do not have a character that can receive this love can do nothing but weep and gnash their teeth in their baseless judgments and false accusations. Truly, the fire has come that will not be quenched. All eyes now see, and all nations of the earth mourn for the appearing of the Son of man.

mesha said...

"You are very much wrong."

No, Lottie, you are the one that is wrong.

"Can't you see what pain your son was in when you talked about it?"

If you knew what you were talking about, you would know that his son was not in pain. You could become more knowledgeable by reading The Poor Jeff Lie http://strongcity.info/index.php/site/comments/esthers_letter_to_ben_anthony/.

"THE WORLD DID NOT END IN OCTOBER! OR DECEMBER 15TH! DID YOU TRUTHFULLY BELIEVE IT WOULD?"

No, he didn't, since he never predicted the end of the world and there is no film or audio footage in existence to support that. Don't you think if there were, it would have been included in the the fiction "documentary" that was aired?

Since you say you "know what is wrong and what is right," and talk as one who considers themselves accountable and responsible, then there is no excuse, even at your young age, to repeat falsehoods or accuse one of things you obviously know nothing about.

Numbiman said...

I must say I really struggle for words when trying to comment on something like this. Even for allowing for the normal journalistic sensationalism and editing that would do a biblical author proud, if even 0.0001% of what we saw in that documentary was true in any way, then the world ought to worry.

Michael Travesser and co have clearly replied here, quite understandably, and Michael clearly has a lot to lose should his followers decide that he is in fact not the messiah, but I struggle to see how he, and not, for example, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, is the messiah. Reading up on the Flying Spaghetti Monster one is struck by the similarities of the claims of authenticity: what makes Michael Travesser's revelations any more authoritative than the Spaghetti monster?

Forget the sensationalism around the sex - that is a rather obvious red herring and was latched upon by a society generally incapable of understanding their own biases. And I'm not condoning lying naked with a minor either - just saying there are other big issues too, and those revolve around the fact that in all of human history, not one single person has ever been able to provide scientific evidence of the existence of any deity. And don't come quoting the bible at me: how can a text claim to be authoritative for itself? There is no contemporary external text that verifies any of the biblical claim of authority. Self authorising texts are not acceptable evidence to anyone but the people who base their belief systems on them.

I just find it really hard to believe that there are creatures out there from the same species as myself, and from the same genetic make-up, who can be so utterly and completely duped by a thin little man with a big beard who enjoys a good shag!

hanifa said...

"I just find it really hard to believe that there are creatures out there from the same species as myself, and from the same genetic make-up, who can be so utterly and completely duped ..."

It's really very simple, numbiman. You follow the voice that speaks within you and we follow the Voice we hear. You have been "duped" by yours, deceived into thinking that the world you see is real, as we have been "tricked" by our Voice into knowing that it isn't. At one time in your life, you heard the same Voice that we hear but somewhere along the line, you changed the channel.

".......if even 0.0001% of what we saw in that documentary was true in any way, then the world ought to worry."

No kidding.

Jak Norris said...

Excuse me... but, slagging off a group of film makers and calling them liars doesn't seem to be a very holy thing to do at all.

To be honest, it seems like something a guilty, captured man would do, to try and pass the blame onto something else.

We do not know whether it is the film makers or you who is lying.

And judging by you and many of your followers attitudes I'd say it was you. Not by what we've seen in documentaries, but what we have read in these forums, straight from the horses mouth as it were.

Accusing someone WRONGLY of molesting a child and calling them a lizard?

Even if you are the messiah, and the saved followers, you are disgusting, pitiful human beings and I would rather burn in hell than invest faith in such a twisted, facist regime.

Thankyou very much.

Mesha said...

Jak Norris - I would rather burn in hell than invest faith in such a twisted, facist regime.

Certainly God will honor your request for He wants everyone to receive the desire of their heart.

Gabriel said...

Jak, I'm not sure if this thought has crossed your mind or not, but calling someone (the film maker) a "liar" if it is true, is simply...well...telling the truth, whether or not you believe it is true.

As to whether it is holy? After reading your post, I would have to earnestly ask, in the broadest stretch of the concept, how you would know anything about what is, or is not holy?

While it is true that you do not know who was actually doing the lying, you proceed to make your judgment (against all the principles you seemingly embrace, falsely) as to who it is that is doing the lying, based solely on the words of a group of people clearly attempting to set the record straight, by their reckoning. If you judge "lying" by that standard, Jak, you must have a difficult time with your reflection in any object.

What this looks like, sir, is simply that you have made up your "mind" what you want to believe, and then constructed your own accusations against the alternative. Your entire presentation could have been simply and concisely stated as, "I don't believe Michael. I believe his accusers, because I want to." Everything else you present is simply blathering conjecture from an apparently not-so-lucid mind.

You accuse Michael's followers of being "disgusting, pitiful human beings" not at all recognizing yourself in that description.

And your comment, "I would rather burn in hell than invest faith in such a twisted, facist regime" clearly indicates you either do not have a dictionary, or do not know how to use it – either for spelling or definitions. Facist? (fascist), do try to look up what it really means.

Truly Jak, I tried to take you seriously, but you did not make that task at all easy.

Reason said...

Wow, I never expected to see the New Humanist blog to be overrun by real cultists!

What an irony that the fact that Michael Travesser and his followers are here answering criticism with nonsense only helps to prove their cultish nature...!

Anonymous said...

I am a Bible believing, God fearing Christian, and I have a few things to say to Michael and his followers. First of all, if you really know the Bible like it seems, then why would you think that Christ would come again in human form? The Bible clearly states that He will come in all his heavenly glory as God in the sky. There will not be another human birth. We are also told that it will be at an unknown time. Yes we are given clues but He will come 'in the blink of an eye'. I do agree with alot of what you preach, for example that you can only find true freedom in Jesus and His sacrifice. however it really seems that you have focussed on certain scriptures and ignored others, which we are warned against doing in Revelation. In this way you have twisted God's word to teach what you want to.

You will not want to hear this, but I am convinced that Michael is one of the false prophets that we are warned about numerous times in the Bible. False prophets are 'wolves dressed in sheep's clothing' i.e. claiming to be the messiah, and coming across as good, but are actually the work of satan. This is very common in end times (which by the way, I too believe we are in). Satan is the master of deception and trickery, and I think he has conned you fully, in making you think you are following God. In this way he will bring about destruction, and blame it on 'God's will' e.g. the sexual immorality, which in NO WAY would God ever condone. It is ALWAYS an abomination to Him. I think you have more in common with the world than you like to think.
I believe 100% that you are experiencing spiritual things, and hearing the voice of higher beings, but again I am convinced this is Satan at work. he is incredibly clever.
I want to urge you with haste, Michael included, to pray to the living God and ask Him to reveal the truth to you, and that you will no longer hear the devils voice. I dont want any of this to sound patronising, I really respect your committment. you seem like nice people and I would like to see you in heaven, not dying to the devil's laughter. Please consider this.
Yours in Christ

snorkel said...

TO MY FLOCK:

GOD HAS JUST APPEARED TO ME AND TOLD ME THAT I AM HIS LATEST PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION. MY NAME IS GABRIEL AND I AM THE NEW MICHAEL THAT WAS PROMISED YOU. I HAVE CAST AWAY MY OLD SHELL AND PUT ON A NEW BODY.
THIS IS A CALL TO MY FLOCK: COME JOIN ME. LEAVE THE OLD CORPSE OF MICHAEL WHO NO LONGER POSSESSES ANY POWER AND COME FIND ME. I HAVE SET UP A HAVEN IN THE REMOTE COUNTRY OF THE GAMBIA AND I AWAIT YOU ALL.
PS; NOW THAT THE BODY OF MICHAEL WHICH YOU DO SEE BEFORE YOU IS ONLY A CORPSE, DEVOID OF MY SPIRIT, FEEL FREE TO DO AWAY WITH IT IN WHATEVER MANNER PLEASES YOU.
MAY GABRIEL'S BLESSING BE UPON YOU, AMEN

thenewchrist said...

TO ALL MY FOLLOWERS:
BELIEVE NO LONGER THE WORDS OF THE OLD VESSEL MICHAEL WHO NO LONGER CONTAINS THE POWER OF THE MOST HIGH.
LISTEN TO THE TRUE WORDS OF GOD SPOKEN TO YOU THROUGH HIS SERVANT GABRIEL AND HEAR THEM:
I WAS PRAYING AND MEDITATING ON BIBLE SCRIPTURE IN MY ROOM WHEN THE ALMIGHTY APPEARED BEFORE ME AND I WAS SLAIN IN THE SPIRIT.
THIS OCCURRED THE NIGHT OF THE 31ST OF OCTOBER.
GOD SPOKE AND TOLD ME I WAS TO BE HIS NEW WITNESS TO ALL NATIONS--THAT I WAS TO LEAD HIS CHURCH IN STRONGCITY TO A NEW HAVEN OF REST IN THE GAMBIA. I ASKED GOD HOW TO FIND HIS CHURCH AND HE GAVE ME THE NAMES OF CERTAIN WEBSITES IN PROPHECY AND ORDAINED ME TO CALL THEM AND LEAD THEM TO A CHOSEN LAND, SELAH.
AFTER PRAYING SOME MORE I WAS AGAIN STRUCK BY THE SPIRIT AND THE HOLY BIBLE FLEW OF THE SHELF AND WAS OPENED TO THESE VERSES.
LET ALL THOSE WHO LOVE READ THEM AND KNOW THAT I SPEAK THE TRUTH. THOSE WHO HAVE EARS TO HEAR LET THEM HEAR:

DANIEL 9:15; AND NOW, OH LORD OUR GOD, THAT HAS BROUGHT THY PEOPLE FORTH OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT WITH A MIGHTY HAND (GOD SHOWED ME THAT THE LAND OF EGYPT IS THE INIQUITOUS WORLD) AND HAST GOTTEN THEE RENOWN, AS AT THIS DAY; (BEN'S DOCUMENTARY HAS BROUGHT THIS RENOWN) WE HAVE SINNED, WE HAVE DONE WICKEDLY. (THE LORD CLEARLY SHOWED ME HOW WAYNE'S ADULTEROUS WAYS HAVE BROUGHT SIN INTO THE CAMP OF THE SAINTS AT STRONGCITY) OH LORD, ACCORDING TO ALL THY RIGHTEOUSNESS, I BESEECH THEE, LET THINE ANGER AND THY FURY BE TURNED AWAY FROM THY CITY JERUSALEM, THY HOLY MOUNTAIN; BECAUSE FOR OUR SINS, AND FOR THE INIQUITIES OF OUR FATHERS (WAYNE'S) JERUSALEM AND THY PEOPLE ARE BECOME A REPROACH TO ALL THAT ARE ABOUT US.
VERSE 21- YEA, WHILE I WAS SPEAKING IN PRAYER, EVEN THE MAN GABRIEL, WHOM I HAD SEEN IN THE VISION IN THE BEGINNING, BEING CAUSED TO FLY SWIFTLY, TOUCHED ME ABOUT THE TIME OF THE EVENING OBLATION (THE MOMENT WHEN I WAS PRAYING) AND HE INFORMED ME, AND TALKED WITH ME, AND SAID, OH DANIEL, I AM NOW COME FORTH TO GIVE THEE SKILL AND UNDERSTANDING. AT THE BEGINNING OF THY SUPPLICATIONS THE COMMANDMENT CAME FORTH, AND I AM COME TO SHEW THEE; FOR THOU ART GREATLY BELOVED: THEREFORE UNDERSTAND THE MATTER, AND CONSIDER THE VISION.
VERSE 26- AND AFTER THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS SHALL MESSIAH BE CUT OFF, (THIS SIGNALS THE END OF MICHAEL'S REIGN) AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME SHALL DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY AND THE END THEREOF SHALL BE WITH A FLOOD, (GOD SHOWED ME THAT I AM THE PRINCE AND I MUST DESTROY THE OLD CITY THAT WAS ONCE THE SANCTUARY, STRONGCITY, BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT FLOOD AND BRING HIS PEOPLE OUT INTO A SAFE LAND) AND UNTO THE END OF THE WAR DESOLATIONS ARE DETERMINED. (THERE WILL BE TROUBLESOME TIMES FOR GOD'S PEOPLE UNTIL THE END OF THE EVIL WAR IN IRAQ) END OF VERSES.

AGAIN I SAY, BELIEVE THE WORDS OF THE LORD SPOKEN THROUGH HIS PROPHET GABRIEL, COME UNTO ME, LEAVE THE OLD AND OBEY MY WILL.
THE LORD THEN TOLD ME TO WARN HIS PEOPLE THAT WAYNE, WHO NO LONGER HAS HIS SPIRIT, MAY TRY TO HOLD THEM BACK.
THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD, "IF WAYNE DOES NOT YIELD TO MY WILL HE WILL, LIKE NEBUCHADNEZZAR, BE STRUCK DOWN BY FOLLY, AND INSANITY WILL TAKE HOLD OF HIM UNTIL SEVEN TIMES SHALL PASS OVER HIM. AND THEN HE WILL KNOW THAT THE MOST HIGH RULETH IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN AND GIVETH IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL"

hanifa said...

For all of the Anonymous "Bible-believing, God fearing Christian"'s reading this:

Consider if you believe and fear the truth in these words of God:

"And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight." Ezekiel 4:12

"And He said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." Genesis 22:2

"And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms:... " Hosea 1:2

".....whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." Galatians 6:7

".... as He is, so are we in this world." 1 John 4:17



The one Anonymous asked, "Why would you think that Christ would come again in human form?"

The Word of God says:

"....and their governor shall proceed from the midst of them....." Jeremiah 30:21

"In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land." Jeremiah 33:15

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." Deuteronomy 18:18

"And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God." Exodus 29:45

"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them, and be their God." Revelation 21:3



Anonymous said, "There will not be another human birth."

"...Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:13

Anonymous said, "We are also told that it will be at an unknown time."

Yes, the Son of Man came at an unknown time, that is, He came at a time when we were not expecting it. He just appeared in our midst and dwelt among us....and we believed Him.

We believe every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God in our hearts. The children of God HEAR HIS VOICE.

Since you are 100% convinced that Michael is a false prophet, then just have your own "messiah's", your own false christ's, who preach smooth things about how everyone sins sometimes, saying "after all you are only human", and encourage you to support killing people in the name of god and country.

Don't be nice, Anonymous, be real. Be honest. You show yourself a double-minded man. You say, that the devil has conned us and made us think that we are following God. How, then, can you say that you agree with alot of what we preach, that you respect our commitment and that we seem like nice people? Either you are for Michael and what Father has done in this land or you are not.

Those who are His, hear His Voice and follow HIM, not doctrines or laws or churches.

brybarn said...

Anonymous,

I appreciate your questions and can understand how you have arrived at those conclusions and prejudices.

You asked: "First of all, if you really know the Bible like it seems, then why would you think that Christ would come again in human form?"

Have you read what the angel said to those who saw Jesus ascend? "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner (hint: in human form) as ye have seen him go into heaven." Acts 1:11

Have you also read, "Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame." Revelation 16:15

Don't thieves come in human form? The word translated "thief" here is the Greek word "kleptes", which can be applied either literally or figuratively. Figuratively, "the name is transferred to false teachers, who do not care to instruct men, but abuse their confidence for their own gain." (Online Bible's Greek Lexicon)

So, applied figuratively, that verse can read like this:

"Behold, I come appearing to be a false teacher who abuses my confidence for my own gain. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."

When the Spirit of God's Son came in human form the first time, in Jesus, he appeared to those of that generation as a lawbreaker (criminal) and blasphemer of God's law. That is why the vast majority rejected him. Most of the Jews could not even discern the time or the signs in the heavens, so much so that God resorted to humbling Israel by using the "heathen" magi "stargazers" to herald the appearing of Christ. The Jews "had God in a box," and the Christians of today have Him in a doctrinal box, also. So, again, Christ comes again in an unexpected manner, appearing as an adulterer and a false christ to effectively bring to judgment those who say they are One with the Father and hear and obey His voice. Both the old and new testaments are replete with examples of holy men commanded by the Father to do that which appears to go against the letter of His law. Men must have the Father Himself as their security, and not a graven image.

You said that you see us as committed, and as "nice people", and yet also deceived. You describe yourself as a follower of the Father and Christ, His Son. You have implored us to ask the living God to reveal the truth to us. Do you think that the Living God, Who is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent, Who has paternal affections for us beyond all mortal imagination, would for a moment leave His children unprotected in the presence of His enemy? Truly, we have asked of Him bread, and He has given us the Bread of Life, and not a stone. But to the world has been given a stone of stumbling, a rock of offense (scandalon in the Greek). Yes to the world, Michael is certainly a scandal, and it is intentionally so.

I have a couple of questions for you, Anonymous. Have you ever been in association or communication with any of our members? If so, would you kindly be transparent with me by using your name here so that I know who I'm addressing?

Very Sincerely,
Bryan Barnard

Matt said...

How do we stop this torrential outpouring of gibberish?

Paul Sims said...

Easy Matt - when I stop approving the comments! But for now I feel it's proving a point.

athinkingman said...

They used a similar tactic on my blog. After over 300 comments I decided it was time to rein them in a bit.

hanifa said...

athinkingman said, "After over 300 comments..."

Just for information's sake, the ratio of comments on that blog by the "cultists" as opposed to those who were not of strong city, is pretty close to 50/50.

brybarn said...

Dear Paul,

Just in case you didn't notice, the posters using the screen names "snorkel" and "thenewchrist" are mocking posts and not anyone from here at Strong City. They've been pasting identical posts on other blogs also. Just FYI.

Sincerely,
Bryan Barnard

Matt said...

"the ratio of comments on that blog by the "cultists" as opposed to those who were not of strong city, is pretty close to 50/50"

Ah, but the signal-to-noise ratio is not so evenly split now, is it? :)

hanifa said...

Matt said: "Ah, but the signal-to-noise ratio is not so evenly split now, is it?"

God Himself sent out the signal and the ensuing cacophony of those who oppose Him is most certainly deafening.

Tea Cake said...

I am now the new Michael. I had a vision whilst heating up a pot noodle and god said upon to me. You must live in a camper van (all of us) and travel the country of England distributing the chosen Wagon Wheels (a type of chocolate biscuit) to the gathering masses. We will then we shall all wear leggings and tea cosies on our heads and all shall be well with the world. mmmm could work

Shakira said...

Tea Cake, snorkel, thenewchrist, How are we to know that you are the new Michael? When Michael came into Wayne Bent, I KNEW, there was a voice ringing within myself, that he is who he says he is.
There is no ringing voice within myself, to your posts.
I

Tea Cake said...

Yes but Shakira,... do you not have an urge now to eat the holy Wagon Wheel of Burtons, wear leggings and a tea cosy on your head, its the future and does not involve lying down naked together, unless you want to that is, we could make that a commandment, I am open to offers as I am new at this whole messiah thing !

Tiara said...

I am as Shakira is. When Michael came into Wayne, I KNEW Who was here. He wouldn't have been able to hide it even if He tried to. There was a spark in me that responded to Him. His words have filled me with life. This is why my mind can not be changed, I have a knowing in my heart that can not be denied.

Anonymous said...

Hanifa,
Thank you for firing so many verses at me. i have considered them, but it seems you have taken them out of context...
Jer 30v21: this is talking about the rulers of Judah immediately after exile. sorry to disappoint you.
Jer 33v15: I think this refers to Jesus. It is repeated from Jer 23v5-6, and is immediately followed by a warning of false prophets.
Deut 18v18: Refers to Jesus. Please consider v20
Ex 29v45: this is talking about GOd's dwelling in the tabernacle, in the age before Jesus. Before we were sent the Holy Spirit.
Rev 21v3: God will dwell again with us when the tabernacle is rebuilt, in the NEW JERUSALEM. This will be after the rapture, tribulation, and after non-believers are removed from the earth. I think we will both agree this has not yet happened.

Please read Matt 24v29-31, v36, and Rev 1 v7, which clearly describe how Christ will return in all His glory in the clouds. I hope you have not removed these verses from your Bible.

Consider too Matt 24v4-5

Finally, I do not condone killings. Why would you say that? They are a part of our present evil age that will be gone when Christ returns.

Bryan,
Acts 1 v 11 describes, Jesus returning to Heaven in His resurrected body, in the clouds, and yes He will return this way.

I have read your comment with interest, but God would not tell us something in code, making us study a verse figuratively, and with different translations. He is VERY clear on how He will return, in the above verses I have mentioned to hanifa. The Bible says he will come LIKE a thief in the night (LIKE can also mean AS, if you insist), and goes on to describe that this means it will be sudden and we must be prepared.
Yes Jesus came as a humble human being the first time, but there is no indication this will happen again. Quite the opposite, as the sacrifice has now been paid.
Every eye will see Christ when He comes again, and not everyone has seen Michael.

I don't want to continue arguing. The reason I wrote my first post was because Jesus commanded us to spread the truth to the nations. I feel I have said my piece and it is up to you whether you listen. As Paul said in Acts 20 v 19-26, I have done my bit and am now innocent of your blood.

my name is Joy.

disciple of GABRIEL said...

to all of you who have spoken against gabriel, shame on you! I have witnessed the miracles done in The Gambia by the man and testify to the spirit of the lord that rests on him. I am not the only one; already followers like me are gathering to hear the words of truth that he speaks.

SHAKIRA and the rest of the original flock in strongcity, forsake Michael and come join those of us who follow Gabriel. Howcome there is no voice ringing in your head when you hear this truth? Could it be that you are blind to the truth and so stuck in the old ways of Michael that your ears are blocked to this message? When I heard Gabriel speak I felt the spirit of the Lord and had to follow. I pray that God will open all of your eyes to the truth before it is too late!

Matt said...

Amen, Disciple, although why are you only mentioning Peter? There's more than one member of Genesis! How can you forget Phil Collins?

No one who hears "I can't dance" will ever follow Shakira and Michael Bolton.

Anonymous said...

i'm writing an essay on this cult, can you explain to me what brought on your vision?

Anonymous said...

You who are3 decieved and profess Christianity have put God in your little box. We who believe as well as all the profits who came before us have not. You decieved might want to read your Bible and see all the weird things God told the profits to do. Jugement is come to all and you all will either be consumed by the lust of the flesh or the spirit of the Heavenly Father.

broken-candy said...

micheal, please contact me, there is something missing in my life, and god showed me your tv show/

Anonymous said...

You who are blind to things of the spirit are just like the people of the world in Noah’s day. God’s people have entered into the end time ark (Christ’s Life) Michael. The consummation represents the flood and every bit of the speck of light you ever had is being washed away. I too believed as you did, but The Heavenly Father has taught me to recognize His voice. I was in the church of The Lord Our Righteousness and heard and believed many wonderful truths taught there. The moment I doubted His voice I entered a Literal seven year Nebuchadnezzar experience. During this time I slandered Michael as does Ben’s documentary. Dec. 3,1999 I fell to my spiritual death, and two days later I fell 50 ft to my physical death. after 4.5 days I awoke thinking as does an animal. I literally ate grass as an animal. My physical hygiene was such that my hair indeed grew to resemble eagles wings, and my finger and toenails grew to resemble their claws. As an animal is, I was slave to my lust, as also is everyone who sees with the eyes of their flesh and not God’s spirit. Seven years later to the day I felt Father’s spirit reenter me and almost immediately He told me to go find two strange women and just have SEX with them. I saw this as something I would Rather die than do, so I fell to my knees and plead for a way out. Father then told me to stop trying to hurt His Son Michael and those that followed Him, and that I should live as a messenger to point people to His true Son Michael. Father also told me I had already fulfilled this command of His when I was in my animal state of lust.

Numbiman said...

Completely and utterly batf4rk crazy you lot. If there was a god, and there isn't, he'd probably not know whether to laugh or cry at the sheer complete and utter lunacy that is being perpetuated in his name.

If there was a god, and there isn't, and he had al the wonderful attributes you lot ascribed to him, then how could any human possibly know the mind of this god?

If there was a god, and there isn't, why would he give a flying f4rk what you think, you little human speck on a speck of a planet, in a spec of a solar system, in one of 300 billion galaxies, spread across a universe so vast no human mind could even begin to understand its vastness? What makes you think your god created a universe of that size just for you? Some lunatic ramblings of a couple of half-literate nomadic tribesmen?

If there was a god, and there isn't, you lot would all be up sh1t-creak, for not using the brains he might have given you if he existed.

Anonymous said...

Very interesting comments.. i personally feel that the bible means many things to different people. It is the beauty of it that makes one man change his life and another throw it away. Unfortunately i do not believe that micheal is the messiah and since "the rest of the world" is attempting to understand the cults way of life etc then surely micheal and his followers (sorry believers) must atleast try and attempt to listen to our views and opinions and not just nullify them ! I am a man of 25 years living in scotland (u.k) and am of a humble background. i work hard for my living and am very open to peoples beliefs but what i can not accept is people who WILL NOT engage in open debate or accept that maybe, just maybe, there are other beliefs and religions that may also be claiming to be true .... who do we believe ?

Anonymous said...

the man is a pedophile. he made it up to molest fucking kids. but really they should be smarter than to follow it they wernt that young

Anonymous said...

After seeing the documentary, I could not help but feel sad that there are few twisted minds still living in this earth. I do not understand even for an iota why an old man (Wayne) would use and blame God when sex is about to happen or is happening. Why is God telling you to only have sex with younger people? Surely, there are older women in your flock, why is it that God is not compelling you to have sex with them?

Gyro said...

Michael

I am a 15 year old from England
I have a loving mother and father
I have a brother and a sister, both of whom I love
I go to school every day and am preparing for my exams
I have two dogs
I watch TV
I play on my computer
I read magazines
I sometimes pray and I don't even know if there is a god

You say that the world outside of your own is evil

Am I evil aswell

Gyro said...

Michael

I am a 15 year old from England
I have a loving mother and father
I have a brother and a sister, both of whom I love
I go to school every day and am preparing for my exams
I have two dogs
I watch TV
I play on my computer
I read magazines
I sometimes pray and I don't even know if there is a god

You say that the world outside of your own is evil

Am I evil aswell

Tiara said...

Gyro, the best place to ask Michael questions would be to go to our strongcity.info site.

Anonymous said...

Who says the Bible is true? Do you believe everything you read? Or just what other people tell you to believe? To the ladies of the cult, do not confuse sexual arousal with spirituality. It is a simple thing to feel sexual arousal without worshiping a man who says he is God. By the way, nice gig if you can get it. Yes, Wayne aka Michael aka God's son aka God has a really good thing going--for him. For the rest of you in the cult, obviously somebody has confused myth with reality. Somebody believes in make-believe. Wishful thinking, all of it. Of course, a person would need to be strong and wise and independent to walk away from something like this. A person would need to be humble, too, because it would require admitting how ridiculous your behavior had been, and how deeply you had been duped. Pride could get in the way. Where are the psychiatrists when you need them?

Anonymous said...

micheal is not the messiah but a hypocrite. jesus was perfect and commited no sins, yet micheal has commited adultery by sleeping with his daughter in law. also in the bible, the end of the world will come when jesus, the son of god, the messiah returns to earth, so if micheal as really the messiah the world should have ended by now.

Anonymous said...

Have you, the followers of "Michael" stopped to think about what is really going on?

Let us assume, for just a moment that he (Michael) is the son of God. A few questions come to mind. . .

1. Why isn't the prophet/son out prostilizing to the masses? It would seem that if he returned, he would be out among people, spreading the word, not holed up in some compound in New Mexico.

2. Jesus never shirked to face danger or uncertainty. Why isn't the prophet/son over in the middle east trying to save the souls of muslims?

3. Wasn't that what Jesus was all about? Saving the souls of mankind? But what is Michael doing? Hiding out in a compound in New Mexico. God did not send Jesus to "pleasure" himself, or "consummate" with multitudinous women. He was sent to Earth to spread the word and DIE for mankind. . . and Michael is doing what? Holding spirituals with the female followers?

4. But then, why would God tell his son to "Consummate" with women, several of which were not his wife? The purpose of "consummation" or sex is the production of children. Why has Michael not produced those children? If God wanted him to father children, it would seem that it would have only been a one shot thing, if God wanted it, it would have happened! But it did not.

5. Why would the bible preach the importance and sanctitude of marriage, only to turn around and have is "Earthly son" fornicate and break one of the ten commandments? Jesus was sinless, he did not break the 10 commandments, did not fornicate and did not "consummate" on the order of his father.

6. If Michael were the son of God, he would have been a prophet, why was he deceived by Ben on the purpose of the film? God would not permit his son and prophet to be deceived!

7. Ok, perhaps as you say, "Michael" did not intimate that the end of the world would occure on Oct 31, 2007. I will even give you that perhaps "Ben" misrepresented that. However, "Michael" also said that he would receive a new body. . and then REFUSED to come out and answer questions or more importantly, SHOW THE WORLD GODS MIRICLE! Strangly, it would have given the "Son" of God lots of exposure and validity. . but no. .

Perhaps you should review what the bible says about "False prophets" and more importantly how to spot them. . .

"Michael" has performed no miricles, healed no sick, fed no masses, now according to you, has no prophecies. . .

True marks of a real prophet? By choosing to follow a false prophet you condemn yourself to hell if you are wrong, and all of us if you are right. To coin a phrase, what would Jesus do? Did he tell his followers to hunker down in a bunker? To segregate themselves from mankind? No, he told them to go forth and spread his message. . . and "Micheal" is doing what??

Anonymous said...

Why don't you ask Michel, Wayne, Jeff who ever you are, why the State Police were just out the other day checking on things? Wonder why God would think the police are necessary if nothing evil is going on.

Anonymous said...

the messiah will come, but it sure as hell aint you....and the true believers, the faithful ones, the ones who are not "holy rolers" will be saved...your asses can burn when the time comes.
God Bless!!

Davey Jones Lumey said...

Hi British citizens and Americans,
...
Hmmm. I would want to warn people here, that most of the posters that write these horrible violent things towards Travesser Land, are Roman Catholics. Yes, I say so, because it is Truth. Every one knows it, but the Dutchman has to tell it to the world.

How I know?
Easy. I would read the Biography of Pater the Smet, a Belgian Jesuit. He has a University named after him in the US. In his Biography he wrote about killing 200 Mormons.

Now Willow, Healed, Matthew have been abducted. 400 FDLS children, supporting the Prophecy of Joseph Smith, Mormons, have been abducted. A Prophet of the JAHWEH group from Texas has been arrested, having almost the same charges, as when Michael Travesser was arrested.

Why?

This is because the Holy man tells the Truth.
Jesus Christ
has told this to the Hebrews also: That people tend to persecute the Holy man. And I know, I was persecuted all of my life!

By who?

Well, the Roman Catholic Church.
Because, Jesus Christ was also killed by the Romans. Spartacus, a Gladiator the would revolt against Rome before Jesus Christ was born, was cruxified with 6000 others. Slaves.

Michael Travesser is Messiah!

Soldier of Truth said...

@Davey Jones Lumey, we need Unity. Not division. Please do not you bash Moslems and Roman Catholics.

I agree though, that Prince Michael is a Holy Man. And not a Heretic, like this dangerous Cult Leader, that calls himself the "Vicar of Christ".

Is that job becoming vacant?

Samantha said...

The people of Strong City NEED something to believe in, they can't handle themselves or the world on their own two feet. For them to leave Michael would be like learning to walk all over again. It's easier for them to say in his demented compound. I feel nothing but pity for these people as they can't (because they're afraid to) see what a monster Michael is.

It's a bit too obvious that someone who is molested when they were a teenager would then go and molest teenagers, isn't it? He's just a screwed up old man taking out his own issues on innocent people in New Mexico somewhere. He is the worst kind of evil. The number of lives he has ruined and tarnished, and for what? To pleasure his ego and his penis. Disgusting.

Phoenix said...

Some time has passed since this Documentary was aired on Television and I am a Christian and I have to admit that I thought that Wayne (Michael) is very disturbed and he showed signs of some very psychotic behaviour and he has told these people some fairy tale about what he thinks truth is, The Truth is that Jesus died for our Sins and He will forgive everybody who comes to Him so there is still time Wayne (Michael), our God is a forgiving God and we have all made mistakes in life so please don't think its too late, there is still time. I dont judge u but i will follow scripture with what you have done and I do hold some sad feelings for those young people because they are trapped, I don't particularly care about you Wayne, I care about them, they deserve a life away from your lies and I hope whatever u have done to them, i wont judge u or even think about what happens when the camera are away, I have read about what happens in these kinda radical religious groups, I have alot more to say but i feel that I will get angry and say some things that I will regret if I do that. God bless you Wayne and remember Jesus will always love you and He's waiting for you, just turn from your ways and u'll know what real Truth is... God bless you and I will pray for you and especially for all those young people who are there

PAV said...

You are so wrong Brybarn, when you make Jesus out to be a commandment breaker and criminal just because there were those who accused him of doing so. And you are also very wrong to claim that, Micheal/Wayne, is the Messiah again as Jesus was the Messiah then and that Micheal he is being wrongly accused. How can Wayne/Micheal be wrongly accused when he himself admitted to breaking the commandment that says not to take another man's wife (is Jeff, his son, not another man? and did Jeff's father Wayne/Micheal not take his wife?" The voice that Micheal claims to be hearing as the voice of God has to be a voice other than God because God would never command anyone to break a commandment He has already stated that should not be broken by anyone. If you truly guided yourself by "Bible and Bible only," which a true christian will do, you would recogize the Apostle Paul's stand on why he wrote the book of Hebrews. The Apostle Paul wrote the book of hebrews to show how Jesus was and is the only true Son of God and next to God Himself symbolized and typified with the entire old testament sanctuary services especially the Lamb that was slain every year on the Day of Atonement. There Paul indicates that Jesus arose from the dead after He fulfilled his mission and took the place of the Passover Lamb and then entered the Heavenly Sanctuary to now intecede for His saints and will return in the clouds to give them eternal and incorruptible bodies. Jesus Himself warned His followers that MANY false christs and prophets would arise and show signs and wonders and decieve many and if possible the very elect. The reason the very elect will not be decieved is because they will guide themeselves by "Bible and Bible only." The Bible is clear through the writings of the Apostle Paul especially in the book of Hebrews that Jesus was and is the one and only Messiah, there is not need for another Messiah. Anyone that claims to be another Messiah is automatically a false messiah.

PAV said...

In the National Geographic film, Micheal/Wayne said that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was fooling around with other men sexually before the angel Gabriel announced to her that she would be the mother of the Messiah (Jesus.) Here, Micheal/Wayne, missinterprets scritpure: According to the gospel of Matthew, after the angel Gabriel announced to Mary the good news, she questioned the angel how this could possibly be since she had not had sexual relations with any man yet, she is quoted in Luke 1:34 as saying, "How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" Where does Micheal/Wayne get his information to make such impure and sexually promiscous remarks about the mother of Jesus when the Bible is clear that Mary was a sexually pure vessel for God?

This is just more evidence to me that Micheal/Wayne is promoting falsehoods just to support his own polygamous, sexually immoral, and sexually promiscous acitivities.

PAV said...

Wayne/Micheal's statement saying that "his three days in jail are like the three days Jesus was in the tomb" is not only scripturally unfounded but it is also metaphorically unrelated:

Jesus was dead during His three days in the tomb---Wayne/Micheal was very much alive during his three days in jail.

Jesus was dead in the tomb for the sins of mankind---Wayne/Micheal was alive in jail for allegations against him regarding possible and probable inappropriate sexual contact with minors and aiding them in their being delinquent.

Jesus was betrayed by one of His 12apostles who then led a murderous mob to jesus and His 12 apostles' place of prayer and from there He was illegally taken and tried by a mock trial without a jury with a carried out sentence of death---Wayne/Micheal betrayed himself by revealing to the world in the National Geographic film his polygamous and sexually promiscous activities with adult women and possible minor girls, causing the authorities to become concerned for the safety of minor children leading said authorities to legally arrest him and have him put in jail for three days without sentencing him yet.

Jesus was never put in jail. He went unrighteously and illegally from a mock trial to the execution cross---Wayne/Micheal was never executed and probably will not be executed, he just simply went legally and righteously to jail for his unrighteous sexual activities to await his trial date, his sentence is a ways away and it probably will not be a death sentence.

Anonymous said...

if he is the messiah, why does he need glasses

Anonymous said...

Anonymous asked a good question, "If he is the messiah why does he wear glasses?"

But there are other questions too. Jesus wore a robe because that was the attire of His day. So why does Wayne/Micheal wear a white robe at times? Scripture never indicates that Jesus wore any other clothing other than the type of clothing people wore at the time He was around in Jerusalem 2000+years ago.

Another question too is, why would God who very clearly in the Bible indicates that sex is only to be between one man and one woman in marriage suddenly and supposedly contradicts Himself in Wayne/Micheal to blatantly break that commandment and not only take His own sons wife but also lays naked with minor girls? I see no evidence in the Bible where God made any of His servants or prophets in the past to break the seventh commandment or any other of His 10 commandments nor would He change that for anyone now in these end times. Revelation 14:12 it says, "...here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus." This verse here certainly blasts away at Wayne/Micheal's sexually immoral claims to supposedly being commanded by God to carry on like that!

PAV said...

PAV posted the "05 August 2005 22:34" comment and not Anonymous. Please correct that. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Must be great to be a messiah so you can lie naked with all the females.
Michael you sly dog.

sueby said...

It's no use firing bible verses at forty paces at each other. These cultists really, truly believe that they are right; no amount of logical argument will change their rewired minds. They will twist their replies to conform with their beliefs, mis-interpreting bible verses to justify their cult leader's obvious perversions. There is no room for open mindedness and once freedom of thought is lost it becomes an extremely dangerous stance to take. Any belief system that is so very divisive is very dangerous-rigid thought processes start conflict.
Having said that, I want to sign up for the teacosy cult. I love Wagon Wheels. Where do I join?

Anonymous said...

Sueby said that, "it's no use firing scriptures fourty paces at each other etc."

The devil fired scripture at Jesus when Jesus faced the three temptations to endulge his appetite, his pride, and his presumption and Jesus withstood those three temptations of the devil by firing scripture right back at the devil.

So from this angle I will have to disagree that it is no use to come up with scripture to disprove what someone else tries to prove with it.

And while it is true that some will not be convinced otherwise with scripture, there will be those who will be convinced by it and there will be those who will be blessed by the truth of scripture.

Anonymous said...

Some of the internet links on the subject of Micheal Travesser/Wayne Bent indicate that he was a pastor of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and that he left that church 20 years ago or so.

While that is a fact, I would not blame the Seventh Day Adventist Church as having anything to do with what he has become now---a self proclaimed messiah who has also psycho sexually perverted himself and has psycho sexually perverted many of his adult women followers and even some of his younger women followers, and probably some of his men followers are supporting him on this too as something approved and coming from God Himself.

The very fact that Wayne Bent left that church should be evidence enough to show that the S.D.A. Church must have been too strict for him on the subject of sex being only appropriate between one man and one woman in marriage. And also that said church's stand on Jesus Christ of Nazareth 2,000+ years ago was and is the only true Messiah.

Josh P said...

Michael you are a twisted piece of work. I watched the documentary, and theres something i see in your eyes that isn't quite right. You are a sick, sick man. You're followers are not sick or twisted; deluded, but not
evil. You are the definition of evil.
You attract the gullible and weak (in some cases those that are born in to
your hellish 'city') and you brain-wash them. Turn them into something similar to zombies. You use them, control them, and live of them. Just because they are weak and you of some degree of intelligence however insane you are, does not give you the right to control them as if they where sheep. Surely one day (maybe after they see that these numerous 'Judgment Days' are false) these poor people you have deluded will see through your lies.

sara said...

All,

What I find unbelievable throughout these comments is the irrational devotion to and belief in the supernatural. This world
is the only world we will live in (ever) so we really should make the most of it.

I pity these people who, because of their upbringing or fear of the unknown or whatever, voluntarily lead thwarted lives because they fear what will happen to them after they die. Its simple: they will rot in the ground along with all other animals on this planet.

I also feel a great deal of contempt for these people, as this irrational hope in the afterlife often prevents people from making any serious attempts to improve life in the real world.

When are you going to wake up and see whats actually going on?? Your beliefs are based on a book that was written by people as duped as yourselves.

As for "Michael" etc, you are obviously suffering from something. Get yourselves checked in someplace.

Bagman101 said...

Remember that time when Micheal Travesser was the new messiah?
Ah wait!
Bad times guys

Anonymous said...

This one is for "Sara," the one who claims that this world is the only world there is and that those who believe otherwise, plus the Bible, cannot improve their lives for the better etc.;

I have improved my life for the better by believing what the Bible says.

Before this I was headed for a very selfish, lonely, existence here and no hope for anything after this. Now I am happily married and have been for over 30 years and doing a lot of good for others in this world too and now with the hope of something even better after this life.

I feel sorry for you and all those who, like you, go on fooling themselves into thinking that there is nothing better than this life just the way it is and try to improve it on their very own. I was going nowhere before this. But I do respect the fact that you choose what you have chosen. Don't feel sorry for us. I am a lot happier now than before. You should at least respect this of me like I respect what you have chosen for yourself.

And I do not believe or support what Wayne Bent claims or has done. But I also do agree with you that he needs psychological help.

Ian said...

I watched a programme of this cult today and must say what a bunch of total planks these people are!

Dan said...

So "Michael" has been convicted of sexual contact with a minor...

Well all I will say is he got what he deserved.

Anonymous said...

SORRY, NOONE WILL PROBABLY READ THIS NOW THAT THIS LINE HAS BEEN GOING QUITE A WHILE, BUT HERE GOES! I PERSONALLY DO NOT AGREE WITH 'MICHAELS' WORDS AND TEACHINGS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE (HIS FOLLOWERS) ARE GENUINE, KIND AND BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE! I REMEMBER LOOKING INTO HIS SON 'JEFFS' EYES AND I SAW HONESTY, SHYNESS AND INNOCENCE! I THOUGHT THAT THE LOVE, TRUST AND FAITH OF EACH OTHER BETWEEN THE 'PEOPLE' WAS GENUINE AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE EACH OF THEM AS FRIENDS THAN MOST OF THE BACKSTABBING PEOPLE I KNOW! P.S I'M NOT A 'WIERDO', I LIVE IN ENGLAND, AM A SINGLE MOTHER TO A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL AND I LOVE LIFE!

Anonymous said...

I saw this documentary recently (it appeared on my cable TV's on demand package), and having just seen the documentary "Jesus Camp", I was interested to see what all the fuss was about.
The sad thing is that for every one of these "cults" that make it on to TV, I have no doubt that another 10 exist under similar circumstances of which we are totally unaware.

I would have to disagree with those who claim the documentary was biased or edited to hide something (what that “something” is will usually be a matter for personal interpretation). I shouldn’t have to point out that most of the information in the film was volunteered by that community – they could have kicked Ben out or refused to answer his questions but they didn’t. Crying foul after the fact doesn’t change this. I can’t help but feel that Michael / Wayne has been very much a victim of “Karmic Justice” – you can hide behind mysticism and belief as much as you want but at the end of the day some things are just plain wrong. Ben was spot on with one observation - this was/is clearly an enormous ego trip for Michael, and his motives (when all is said and done) appear to revolve entirely around sex (no surprise there!)

I’m not sure what was worse in respect to his behaviour with those young girls the fact that he continued with this farce knowing it was wrong (or at the very lease suspicious!) or the fact that the parents of these children allowed it to carry on as they did.
I would dearly like to believe that people who follow this individual are reasonable but perhaps with a strong belief in their own faith that some of us might not understand, yet on the face of it this clearly isn’t the case. Of all the people in the film it was Michael’s son Jeff that made me wonder the most. He struck me as a very normal individual yet present in a living hell, silently screaming “get me out of here!” with his eyes.

All I can really say to them is this – it seems fairly clear that by way of recent events, God isn’t that keen for Michael to continue his “work” by throwing his egocentric behind in jail. Use this unexpected gift and get yourself the hell out of there before some other creature like Michael comes along to replace him

Anonymous said...

Hello Michael.

i would like to say your a FUCKING WEIRDO. i think you are full of bullshit. and you all should go and kill yourselves, you are the evil one. me and you are a like in many ways. if you would like to talk to me. email me at deano_2006_07@hotmail.com

if you dont email me. it proves what a nob head you really are. i think you should go to prison to be honest. god doesnt exist. get over it....

Sam said...

To Michael and All His Followers,
I do believe that there is a higher power than us. What I dont believe is what you are doing to this cult you have formed. It is an absolute disgrace to us as human beings. You think the world is going to end and you prepare yourself for this??? The end way your world is going to end is if you kill yourselfs. That is the reality. I cant believe how you can brainwash these people into thinking you are something you are not???
Im just disgusted.

Anonymous said...

It is obvious to me that those who have been following Wayne/Micheal have not been very good Bible students at all. In the gospel of Matthew 23:9 Jesus was clear that His followers were to address none of their leaders by the title, "Father," here on this earth. Jesus indicates there, that this title was to be used by His followers to apply to God Himself, who abides in heaven.

So Wayne/Micheal's followers have allowed themselves to be deceived by Wayne/Micheal because he allows them to refer to him as "Father," totally and completely ignoring this command of Jesus Himself.

This also is another evidence of Wayne/Micheal's false messiahship, not to mention, false christ, and false prophet.

Doodie said...

Awesome posting. Nice work.
Have you seen the cartoon about the end of the world? Nuclear Holocaust....Some bad language, but awesome an funny. I just put it up.

http://doodiepants.com/2009/08/14/end-of-the-world-animation-nsfw/

Anonymous said...

For CHRIST sake, bring forth the courage to have FAITH In your selves not some 2000 year old self proclaimed scripture that has absolutely zero physical evidence - PROOF to back it up. Who's to say I can't write a silly book or tell people that I am a messiah just as this stupid psychotic loser has done. I don't believe in anything but myself and those around me, do you realize that there have been many more battles fought and many more people die in the name of RELIGION than for any other reason throughout history. The whole notion of the bible and an almighty god watching over us is a conspiracy. If evil disgusting people like michael exist and have the power to control the weak minds of others so easily who's to say some even older grey haired crooks didn't get on the band wagon some thousand years ago. I'm certainly not going to change anyones opinion I'm no messiah. But if you do read this take it on board at least maybe consider the fact for one second with an unbiased mind. I'm simply backing the better horse, the one with a proven track record. There's always a nonsense biblical reference to come back with but it's based on what evidence? Science is proven and evidential (don't google more conspiracy theorists) I realist the big bang is a theory and that's exactly why sane people called it a theory. Open your eyes for God sake if for no other.

I know that it is hard but have a little faith in yourselves I promise you will end up better off than the pathetic basterd ruling these peoples lives and the poor mindless girls who have to have sex with him.
Raise my corpse in a thousand years if I'm wrong but your wasting the only real life you get if you are devoting it to this crap.

I know it would help if there were a god and I've even given him the benefit of the doubt before and prayed myself in hard times. I still know there is no such thing until you can prove it. If parents can trick their kids into believing in a fat man who hops down chimneys and slides through keyholes this weirdo can hold the same lie.

Follow reality. Have faith in yourselves. Have the sense to use what's left of your life and wake up from the dream. As someone said before we are a tiny speck in the scheme of things (that's proven) and without a doubt if there were a magical globe munger above us all he surely would be laughing at you. Don't bitch about Iraq when the very essence of why it started is due to outstanding faith in an old religion. It's a myth people. Believe me I'm a prophet.

G.E

SLNKIWI said...

I have just seen this program on TV in Australia and it was with great fascination that I watched the poor deluded creatures gazing at their Messiah.
Interesting to notre that while Jesus did nothing for himself - Mr M seemed to do alot for himself. HAsnt he heard about adultery -
These people are brainwashed, and hypnotised - theres no point in arguing with them. Unfortunatly Mr M has turned relativly normal people (some anyway) into complete nutters. Sad. Especially sad for the children he has his claws into.
Im glad to see he is currently serving time - perhaps hell get a taste of his own medicine - its my understanding that Cons can be very very manipulative.
Huger Strike indeed. Sign.
Oh and BTW _ I am a Christian and I have read the Bible and I do know the 10 comandments and it clearly says no coveting the neighbours possessions, and no bonking outside marriage. One man One woman - until death do you part. I feel very sorry for his poor son - fancy being raised from birth by that selffish, evil sinner.

Anonymous said...

Just another 66 year old man shagging young girls by convincing them that "God" told them to. What rubbish. Sounds like any other pedophile Catholic priest that you read about

Anonymous said...

I just watched the documentry..
yet they say that it is twisted and lied?

i believe your "messiah" did lay with 7 virgins?
i believe your "messiah" did engage in sexual means with his own sons wife?
i also believe he did not deny this,

now.. from what I can see. from this documentry, that even though it may be tweaked? i believe it is. i do not believe you can fake a story abwt a 66 year old man who lay with girls of underage in his own bed.

Why did their parents leave also?
have they ever asked themselves that question?
maybe they saw through the blindness that covers your cult "messiah".

And if you do follow the bible, i cannot remember reading in the bible of jesus seducing children under the age of 16.

You are litteraly despicable.
I believe that you are to fault. not the people who reside inside the cult.

its a shame that people can be tricked by the sick and twisted mind of a 66 year old who failed at life, so tried to take others.

HKhan said...

The world will not end because of earthquakes, tsunami, meteor strike, nuclear war, supernova, or any other natural or man made disaster. End will not happen on any arbitrary date like December 2012. The end of the universe has been designed into the laws of the universe by the creator. The contraction of the universe will commence the beginning of the end which will last for thousands and possibly millions of years. We will however be gone far before that time removed from the dying universe.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys,

Who are we to judge? Sometimes i think - how can we believe in something we have never seen? Sometimes we experience tragedies in our lives where we question the existence of a GOD, even saying stuff like "there is no GOD". But then, we go back to FAITH to find comfort. I think the cult should be left alone and if they feel as if the world outside the cult is evil then they should just stick to their cult. It's not up to us to judge others so if either party is doing wrong they will be punished in their own way and own time. No offence to anyone. Just trying to be neutral

Char said...

I am 16 and I am an Agnostic, as I have come to believe that there is no way we can prove what happens after we die. Belief in something is simply not enough to PROVE it.

However, after reading about this cult on their website which I assume has not been 'tweaked' in any way, and watching the programme, which I believe contained mostly words from the mouths of members of the cult, including Wayne himself, it pushes me further and further away from the notion that there is a God. Hearing that God could possibly force a 'prophet' to commit sins like the ones Wayne has admitted to made me question what Gods motives were for doing this to Wayne, and more importantly whether or not it was just a lie so Wayne could carry out his sins without being questioned.

We are all human beings, we were all born to this world simply because of reproduction, something that all living things do (including plants and animals). I don't believe that we were born for a reason, I believe that we were born because that is the way the human race works - if children are not created, we die out. The way all other living things work.

If Wayne believes he was created for the purpose of the world, to be the Son of God, and to spread his word, maybe he should prove himself. Anyone can say words, create websites, and write long letters to force people to believe what they say. Only a foul minded person could lay naked with an underage girl, and sleep with his own sons wife. If God told him so, then I'd like to see proof of this. Words are NOT enough.

I don't believe I deserve to go to hell for having an open mind and for relying on myself.

Craig said...

once over a half a decade ago people followed a man. Followed him on a path that ultimately led to there destruction. This man made a very interesting quote in a book he wrote. His quote was about something he called the big lie theory. I was brought up in a religeous family but am not religeous myself. Maybe you should read the scriptures yourself and come to your own conclusion. I leave you with this quote "folks who know the truth arn't talking... the ones who don't have a clue, you can't get them to shut up"

Anonymous said...

i watched the documentary last night and found it to be a very disturbing insight into what is basically, a man who is in total control of these followers, i doubt he is used to anyone ever challenging him about his behaviour, He hides these poor souls away from reality brainwashes them into people who only think and believe what michael believes. it was so sad, I beleive in god and i pray sometimes , and i hope god can protect these disturbed followers from the controlling pervert who they sadly worship. his son seems very sad and lost. no god would allow a man to sleep with his sons wife , and continually do so with other women. i think you will have a lot of explaining to do at those pearly gates michael.

mkhan said...

The world will not end because of earthquakes, tsunami, meteor strike, nuclear war, supernova, or any other natural or man made disaster. End will not happen on any arbitrary date like December 2012. The end of the universe has been designed into the laws of the universe by the creator. The contraction of the universe will commence the beginning of the end which will last for thousands and possibly millions of years. We will however be gone far before that time removed from the dying universe.
http://www.endphysics.com

Lauren, UK said...

I saw this documentary for the first time last night in the UK and found it frightening and concerning. The pure black look of evil in ‘Michael’s’ eyes was not that of a prophet or a Messiah or a good man, but an egotistic empty soul who was not used to being challenged and did not appreciate outsiders speaking the truth of his deplorable actions. Michael is a perverted man, he has devastated his son, Jeff, the only man who looks remotely present or human through the documentary, a man with purpose in his eyes rather than a vacant, brainwashed stare. He has destroyed the confidence of the young boy who lived in fear of the end of the world up until the day when nothing happened, by which point this boy was un-saveable, completely and utterly believing of this man’s supremacy. He has admitted his lust for female flesh, admitting that he ‘consummated’ more than once with his son’s wife because frankly, he enjoyed it, stealing his son’s expectations of marriage which had been preached to him by his own despicable father for all of his life. He has lain naked with under-aged girls. There is absolutely no excuse for this. It is oh so convenient to say ‘God made me do it’ ‘God told me to do it’ – can I ask you beautiful followers what would this man have to do in the name of God before you questioned him? Could he rape one of the girls ‘because God made him?’ or what if God caused a vision in Michael, forcing him shaking on to the floor and whispered to him ‘kill your son’ would that be acceptable? God doesn’t like adultery any more than he likes murder. Are you prepared for this man to break all of the Ten Commandments in the name of God before you condemn him and leave his trap of lies and evil and perversion?
Religion was created and is still used today as a tool to control society, and there has never been a society without a leader. First there was God, then there was government, and now the Michael. If you don’t want to live in ‘our world’ where people live the one life have or ever will be given and try to enjoy themselves without fear of sin or reprieve through whatever means (material still counts) then why not flock together rather than under the gaze of one man? One man who has called himself a prophet is not a prophet, he is an excuse for frightened, confused people already deluded by the idea that there is a man in the sky watching over and listening to them to exit from the real world and give up their responsibilities. Michael saw a niche in the market – some people are waiting to be saved, they waste their time on earth waiting to die and ascend to heaven, forgetting that this is the part that really matters. A man like Michael, not deluded but incredibly manipulative and intelligent, scoops up individuals like this and gives them all of his worldly possessions (material things he so frequently denounces) in return for endless love and gratitude, naked minors and sex with his son’s wife. He knows that even if you discover the truth about him - that he is just a man with a sick mind – that you will probably be too destroyed to admit it and continue to live in this cycle until the day you die. Why do you need him when you have God? Why is a Messiah so vital when you could reject this false prophet and live together in harmony? Have you ever thought that this overwhelming feeling you experience may be God telling you to run away, warning you? Could it be God’s way of saying ‘put your clothes back on, you’re underage!?’
I do not believe in God in any way but the people in this documentary were kind, if not incredibly deluded to a frightening degree.

Lauren, UK said...

I saw this documentary for the first time last night in the UK and found it frightening and concerning. The pure black look of evil in ‘Michael’s’ eyes was not that of a prophet or a Messiah or a good man, but an egotistic empty soul who was not used to being challenged and did not appreciate outsiders speaking the truth of his deplorable actions. Michael is a perverted man, he has devastated his son, Jeff, the only man who looks remotely present or human through the documentary, a man with purpose in his eyes rather than a vacant, brainwashed stare. He has destroyed the confidence of the young boy who lived in fear of the end of the world up until the day when nothing happened, by which point this boy was un-saveable, completely and utterly believing of this man’s supremacy. He has admitted his lust for female flesh, admitting that he ‘consummated’ more than once with his son’s wife because frankly, he enjoyed it, stealing his son’s expectations of marriage which had been preached to him by his own despicable father for all of his life. He has lain naked with under-aged girls. There is absolutely no excuse for this. It is oh so convenient to say ‘God made me do it’ ‘God told me to do it’ – can I ask you beautiful followers what would this man have to do in the name of God before you questioned him? Could he rape one of the girls ‘because God made him?’ or what if God caused a vision in Michael, forcing him shaking on to the floor and whispered to him ‘kill your son’ would that be acceptable? God doesn’t like adultery any more than he likes murder. Are you prepared for this man to break all of the Ten Commandments in the name of God before you condemn him and leave his trap of lies and evil and perversion?
Religion was created and is still used today as a tool to control society, and there has never been a society without a leader. First there was God, then there was government, and now the Michael. If you don’t want to live in ‘our world’ where people live the one life have or ever will be given and try to enjoy themselves without fear of sin or reprieve through whatever means (material still counts) then why not flock together rather than under the gaze of one man? One man who has called himself a prophet is not a prophet, he is an excuse for frightened, confused people already deluded by the idea that there is a man in the sky watching over and listening to them to exit from the real world and give up their responsibilities. Michael saw a niche in the market – some people are waiting to be saved, they waste their time on earth waiting to die and ascend to heaven, forgetting that this is the part that really matters. A man like Michael, not deluded but incredibly manipulative and intelligent, scoops up individuals like this and gives them all of his worldly possessions (material things he so frequently denounces) in return for endless love and gratitude, naked minors and sex with his son’s wife. He knows that even if you discover the truth about him - that he is just a man with a sick mind – that you will probably be too destroyed to admit it and continue to live in this cycle until the day you die. Why do you need him when you have God? Why is a Messiah so vital when you could reject this false prophet and live together in harmony? Have you ever thought that this overwhelming feeling you experience may be God telling you to run away, warning you? Could it be God’s way of saying ‘put your clothes back on, you’re underage!?’
I do not believe in God in any way but the people in this documentary were kind, if not incredibly deluded to a frightening degree.

Lauren UK said...

These people do not deserve to be manipulated, to have the verses of the bible re-annotated for them, to be born into this farce (shame on the parents who gave birth to their children in this terrible situation) It upsets me to think of people so terrified of real life, of admitting they were wrong, of walking away, but I will not lose sleep over it. I have said my piece and hope it will bring me the peace I lost since I looked through a camera into the black eyes of the embodiment of evil and all that is wrong, untrue and unholy.
I can only hope that by now this man is in prison, but I am saddened to think that he may not be.
Jeff, please come and live in Brighton with me and my boyfriend – we love each other dearly and are good people despite your possible belief that we must be bad to live in this world. We will show you that you do not have to be enslaved by this demon you call your father anymore. We will help you back into real life with all its glory, the love of another person (someone who loves you and does not commit adultery towards you) the challenges, the hardship which makes all the good times even sweeter, and most importantly the truth: that we only have one chance, we can only chose one path and that we cannot see the end, we do not know when our lives will finish, we do not have a prophecy – we have trust in our loved ones and friends and trust in ourselves as we have been raised with a sense of independence not blind faith. We hope that things will go well, we try to take the right turns and the fun, the real living is in the finding out. Despite what you said you have not burned your bridges in this world, you do have a future. Cross this bridge.